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richarddurgee
Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any pictures of the Naphtha engine in the launch
at Mystic Sea port ??? Other engines known or pictures ?? Thanks Richard
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andrew
Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,

There are quite a number of Naptha engines around. The Independance Seaport Museum has one in a launch on display. I think the Adirondack Museum has one. Henry Ford Museum has one in the launch Chiripa. I have also seen various ones owned by private collectors.

The Adirondack Musuem published a little booklet in 1976 by Kenneth Durant called The Naptha Launch. I don't know if they still sell it or not, but if not it is probably available used. Nice little booklet with some history and technical inof. Also contains a bibliography of sources... Forest & Stream, RUDDER, Gas Engine and Power Co. instruction book, etc.

Pat Spurlock is working on a current high quality book on Naptha engines and launches.

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andrew
Posted on Monday, November 11, 2002 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Pat Spurlock
Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Naphtha Afficionados:

Does anyone know where we can see original Gas Engine & Power Co brochures about their naphtha launches, or Escher Wyss & Co brochures about the launches they built in Zurich under license, or Alco Vapor Launch Co. brochures?

Alco Vapor was F. W. Ofeldt's later invention after the naphtha engine; it was an improvement, as it burned kerosine and boiled alcohol.


We have exhausted the resources of Mystic and Mariners' Museums, and to complete the research we need to discover further resources, especially sources of the European builder. Does anyone know who is the old engine collector in Germany or Switzerland who might have an Escher Wyss brochure original. We have the reprint by Hillsdon.

It is a fascinating step in the history of engines!

Thank you,

Pat Spurlock
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Tom Stranko
Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a xerox copy of the sea shell shaped hand out from the 1893 Columbian Exposition from GE&P.
It's mostly testemonials with 2 illustrations.
I also know that the March-April 1961 "steamboats and modern steam launches" had a good article.
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Dave
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Antique Boat Museum in Clayton NY has a naptha launch "similar" to the one in the Adirondack Museum. The one in the Adirondack Museum was owned by a friend of mines father thus some casual history is available. If there are questions I can research or answer on the boat in Clayton please advise.
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Sandra B
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Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone have a pictue of an Ofeldt naptha launch?
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richarddurgee
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Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

where was the Ofeldt launch made ?
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richarddurgee
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Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Located this 1903 ad,this was the power plant, I will look for the Launchs !

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searcher
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Posted on Friday, April 23, 2010 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wouldn't mind owning one of these.

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ziechy
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We know that The Henry Ford museum is a National Historic Landmark so that it is so great to be in there. The Henry Ford gallery in Dearborn, Mich., is reopening after an extended period of remodeling to unfold an account of America's obsession with the automobile. Beginning Jan. 29, the exhibition “Driving America” will open to the general public. The $8 million project signifies the first major overhaul of the gallery in 25 years, said Henry Ford museum president Patricia Mooradian. Same topic here Driving America opens at The Henry Ford on Jan. 2 . It will show and feature great automobiles in the automotive industry.
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hycom
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2014 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone have DIMENSIONS for a 6hp Ofeldt or Escher Wyss Naphta Engine?
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bruce
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2014 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter, Google modelengines.info/naptha

It appears a high class scale naptha engine model was built from Frank Olfeldt patent drawings. Spectacular documentation/photos/construction.
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bruce
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Posted on Monday, December 22, 2014 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Museums owning Naptha launches. Independence maritime museum, Philadelphia. Mystic Seaport Museum, Mystic CT. Adirondack Museum, Blue Mountain NY . Antique Boat Museum, Clayton NY. Minnesota Lakes Maritime Museum, Alexandria MN.

Anyone else know of other museum owned Naptha launches?

I know of five Naptha hulls in private hands-only one of which still has it's Naptha engine ( not complete)
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ldobbins
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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bruce,

Does your list of Naptha hulls converted include "Cathedral" on Fallen Leaf Lake next to Lake Tahoe?
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bruce
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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Lou, Yes it does include "Cathedral". Great story by the way..
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bruce
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Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oops, I neglected to include "Chirpa" in my list at the Henry Ford Museum,, Making 6 complete Naptha launches in Museums thus far. Mystic Seaport has an unmounted Naptha power unit in it's engine collection also.
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ernie
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Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mystic has a launch too. Not sure if it is the one that belongs to the engine you mention.
A lot of their boats have the engine removed for some reason.

In the notes it has the engine with a separate accession number.

Maybe Scott will shed some light on the subject.

http://library.mysticseaport.org/ere/odetail.cfm?id_number=1953.3071

Title: Naphtha launch LILLIAN RUSSELL

Accession Number: 1953.3071
Category: WATERCRAFT
Type: naphtha launch
Maker: Gas Engine & Power Co.
Place: USA, NY, Morris Heights
Date:
Materials:
Description: Naphtha launch LILLIAN RUSSELL with one cylinder naphtha engine. Varnished with green bottom. Naptha engine restored 1/1973. Engine accessioned as 1953.3071.1



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ernie
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Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is another engine at the Mystic Seaport.
Bruce is this the one you are talking about?

http://library.mysticseaport.org/msca/enginedetail.cfm?accession=1958.1557

Engine Builder: Gas Eng. & Power Co., Morris Heights, NY
Model: unknown
Make: Gas Engine & Power Company
Inboard/Outboard: Inboard
Engine Type: Naphtha
Production Date: Before 1904
Engine Design: Other
Overall Condition: Fair
Rebuilt/Restored: Untouched
Horsepower: unknown
Cylinders: 3
Bore:
Stoke:
Coolant:
Accession:1958.1557

Remarks: Brass covered boiler, iron block, wood and brass fly wheel. Made before 1904, probably 1890's. Basically a steam engine boiling naptha (similar to gasoline) rather than water, and operated as a closed loop system. Heat is supplied to the system by burning a small amount of naphtha. Engine appears frozen, top of boiler cover is cracked, bottom plate of boiler cover(drip pan) has corroded away. Engine block: 14 1/2" long x 6" wide. Boiler: 14" dia. x 20" max. height. See file for flow diagram.Flow diagrams and notes in the file for this engine describe the naphtha power unit as a "Three cylinder, single-acting engine". This description apparently applies to all naphtha engines manufactured by the sole producer, the Gas Engine and Power Co. of Morris Heights, NY. There is a similar but smaller engine in the "Lillian Russell". Donor: Thames Shipyard








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ernie
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Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2014 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From eBay
Here is the link if you want to bid on it
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAPHTHA-LAUNCH-FLORIDA-ANTIQUE-1894-GAS-BOAT-ENGINE-/400150527665?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2ad47eb1
Harpers November 1894
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scott_n
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys I bin off line for a wile we have one complete engine and one launch I think their 14 engines and 6 launches accounted for my college Jim rote a paper on this subject and has a lot more information then me.
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scott_n
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hear is the Anna lessee
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scott_n
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Posted on Monday, January 12, 2015 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry guys I met Lilly-en Russel

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