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John A. Campbell
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Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is my first posting on this site. I shall begin building a 13' 6" inboard skiff (the "Victor Slocum" by William Atkin) in April 2006. Would really like to use a top quality NEW inboard gasoline engine with transmission in this boat. Can anyone tell me if the Blaxland "Pup" or other suitable engine for this boat is still being manufactured? Many thanks!!
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Julian DuBois
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Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blaxland Chapman Marine on 02 65583182 still sell recondidtioned and new engines located in Sydney.
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Bruce Findlay
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Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, I'm new to this forum, I have a circa 1950's clinker hull open launch powered by a Blaxland 3.5 HP single cylinder inboard engine. I rescued this boat from a boat hire business on the Central Coast of NSW. I have restored it to the best of my limited ability and have enjoyed many hours on the water with her. The engine however was badly worn when I got it and I did manage to get it going but now its needs real work. Has anyone used the Blaxland Chapman Marine contact that Julian posted back in January (o2 65583182) and where they useful? I know of another contact at Bensville NSW, has anyone used them? Cheers, Bruce.
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william palmer
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Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

blaxlands r good if running right but i think simplex clae r better because they have a reverse gear
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Matthew Geier
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Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A Blaxland has a 'reverse gear' of sorts. Many years ago I practiced doing it with a TXRR (two cylinder). Being an two stoke, the entire engine can be made to run in reverse - there was a notch on the magneto mount to assist. I don't know if these was 'standard' or even recomended.

Reverse consisted of idling, loosening the magneto retaining screw, then shorting the magneto with the stop button (carefully :-), turning the magneto about 15 degrees until the locating pin dropped into the other notch, and then before the engine stopped rotating completely, letting go of the stop button on the magneto. If you got the timing right, the engine would fire out of sequence and start spinning in reverse. You could then re-engage the clutch and throttle up.

You certainly couldn't do this quickly, not quick enough to use reverse as a brake.
In fact I can't think of any reason to actually need to do this, that couldn't be taken care of with a push and drifting out.

But the engine will definately operate in reverse. (And the boat didn't handle very well backwards either :-)

The old catalogue I have says a forward/reverse gearbox is available as an option.
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Boyd Guard
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Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a blaxland greyhound, it has with it a g/box that is a chapman, above eng. is a 8-10hp. Also it has the mag reversing option.
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Trevor Johnson
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Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a CLAE gear box on the back of a 138 holden engine in a 19 ft clinker, would anyone know were I would find a manaul or details of how they work. When the engine is running it is very hard to keep out of gear. Sydney
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neil r jones
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 01:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't know where you can get any manuals but I have a CLAE Fisherman and my understanding is that the tension on the gearbox horizontal shaft can be adjusted easily.
With gears in neutral tighten the two inner brass nuts on each side (4 nuts)then tighten the outer nuts (4).
Have'nt tried it myself yet so hope it works.
I'm in Sydney also.
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Trevor Johnson
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neil, there is also a spring loaded pin that allows a FWD ring in the gear box to rotate/thread around and click the pin back into machined holes right round the ring. Any Ideas. Would the fwd end of the gear box have a clutch or is it tention from the brass nuts you refered to? Sutherland Shire
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neil r jones
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Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 04:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Trevor,
Sorry can't answer that one.
My CLAE gearbox and motor are as one .No clutch just forward /neutral/reverse.
I believe they are very similar to Simplex boxes which are still manufactured .Simplex Motor Co Seven Hills Sydney.Ph 96246704.
You might also try reposting on this site under 'gears' as your enquiry appears under Blaxland and would escape many members notice.
Regards,Neil
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David Caldwell
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Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, we have the Blaxland twin in a 40's clinker built boat that was recently rebuilt and cannot get it to run well. Is there any way to change the timing? The magneto seems to only sit in one position.
Any help appreciated
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Todd Vidgen
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Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Before you go changing the timing ,ascertain that it is correct,otherwise you will end up all over the shop
First rotate the motor to tdc on #1 cyl
remove the magneto and check that the drive pin
is aligned with the timing mark on the rear most
point on the top face of the cast iron magneto
mount/drive assy.Mark the fly wheel on the outer circumference with a permanent marker to line up
with the center of the water pump piston housing.
Second rotate the fly wheel counter clock wise
about 1/4 turn,then slowly rotate it back until
you are 2 and 1/4 inches before tdc.At this point
the points should just be opening.
If these two things are correct ,your problem lies elsewhere.
If not,one or both will have to be reset,not hard
Todd
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Laurie Derwent
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 03:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David,

You mention that the magneto will only sit in one position. The twins are set up with two 'notches' for the magneto (one for forward and one for reverse running). Typically the forward position is with the magneto perpendicular to the crankshaft and about 25 degrees for reverse runnng (I'm sure someone call tell us the actual angle). To add to the confusion (at least with my motor) 'forward' running is clockwise (i.e opposite to the arrow on the flywheel). If you have the magneto set up on the above basis and have spark then I'd be surprisd if the problems you have are with timing. Regards Laurie
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Shane Russell
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All
I have a Blaxland Chap 10Hp twin which has lost one of the windings of its lucas sr magneto, possibly its last spark went up my left arm when i stupidly put my hand on top of one of the plug while testing the motor, it has been siting ever since, some 2 years now.
Moisture in the coil has done the damage and i was hoping someone knows where i can get another one from, or a good rewind.
She is close to float and run with a new coil

Regards

Shane
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Todd Vidgen
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its probably repairable.
Wrap it up in lots of bubble wrap ,stick it in a box
and post it to me,Click on my name in the author column for details
Todd
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shane russell
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Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Todd

I have had no luck with your E-Mail address
I am hoping you can still help with my coil problem

Regards

Shane Russell
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quinton wilkinson
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Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2011 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shane, Todds telephone is 02 43631361 and address is Cnr of Avoca drive and Davistown road Green point NSW .

Quinton
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shane russell
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Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Quinton
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Todd Vidgen
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Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shane did you get my email?
Sent last week
If not ,then I'm going to wire this computer to
1/2 dozen magnetos and torture it
Cheers,Todd
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shane russell
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2011 - 04:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Todd
You should wire my nuts to a dozen magnetos.
I gave the wrong email address as i have moved to a new provider.
Bruce Sullivan, my uncle will give you a call about the coil in the next day or so.
shanerussell1965@bigpond.com is my contact E-Mail
sorry for the confusion.
Cheers
Shane
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Todd Vidgen
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Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2011 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I still think my computer is suss though.
Maybe a bit of high voltage dc might encourage
a better performance out of it.
Or it might just let out the smoke that makes all
things electrical work.
Have you noticed that when you let the smoke out
these things just stop?
Todd
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quinton wilkinson
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Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2011 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Todd any ideas on the replacement for a dock clutch for my blaxland and cost
Quinton
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quinton wilkinson
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Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2011 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wanted a forward reverse gerabox for a Blaxland twin can anyone suggest how I get one or similar


HELP Quinton
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Todd Vidgen
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Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2011 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quinton,what is wrong with yours?we can reco most of them.
Is it a cone type or finger clutch?
Todd.
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quinton wilkinson
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Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2011 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Todd It is a cone clutch , I start the engine let it idle then engage and it alwasy goes in the a clunk sounds awefull. I think you mentioned a finger clutch before and that this one slips into gear smoother am I correct . I can disconnect and send to you would love a finger clutch if it would be better.
Regards Quinton
ps Carby is great no problems .
Hopeing to come up for the Davidtown meet in october
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Maree Katherine Coulson
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hi ,i have a motor 27ft sailor 35hp perkins & clae gear box ,and now no forward gears ,i have reverse ,no sign of a problem at all ,just gone , i am in Strahan Tas 2& half hours from any town that may be able to help ,would appreciate any help u can give ,suggestions etc as to what parts i may need or what i could do .
Cheers Maree.
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Allen Flux
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Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2011 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maree, It could be as simple as a cable or linkage adjustment to the gearbox.
I had a simlar problem with a Yanmar gearbox which turned out to be the clutch. It started slipping badly two hours into the trip.To get home I had to continually push forward on the gear leaver with my foot to make the clutch engage.Try doing that to see if it is the clutch.
Start motor/select forward gear/push hard on the gear linkage holding it in forward. If it moves forward you'll need to address the clutch.It's important not slip the clutch when anchoring or coming into port because these clutches have to contend with rusted surfaces which are like sand paper and the clutch is ground away every time you slip it.
If your gearbox is anything like the yanmar gearbox,it has a two sided clutch plate,one for forward and other for reverse.When I replaced my clutch plate I came to realise that in a pinch you could turn the plate around with the worn side to the rear and the best side for the main forward drive, naturally reverse ceases to work.
You will need to be specific about your gear box identity. Any numbers or markings to assist with identifying the particular model for any parts you might need.
Hope this helps.
Allen
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Len TATE
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 05:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can new cylinders for a Blaxland twin still be purchased?
I recall that some years ago there were some even though manufacture had ceased.
At present I have a single in my 13 foot boat and it goes very well indeed, so for my next boat, which is bigger, I have found a complete twin, but the cylinders are very old. It's a lot of work to install it, and I don't feel confident that it will last long.
Any info, please?
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Todd Vidgen
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Read further back on this thread re cylinders/phone numbers etc
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Len TATE
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Hullo Todd,
Thanks for your advice on getting Blaxland spares. The only contact info that I could find was back in 2006. Is this current?
Way back, I dealt with Ray Jacobs, But I heard that his son had taken over selling the remaining stock. I think his name was Brett. Is this the one, and the 2006 phone number his?
Regards,
Len Tate
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Paul Norris
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Can any one tell me someone who can help me with poor compression for a Blaxland Champman single cylinder motor in South Australia, (as close to Murray Bridge as possible). When we tested it it only is 75 and I have been told that it should be around 125. This would explain why I can get her going out of the water, but when I put it in gear in the river it conks out.Really would love some advice Paul
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Andrew Munns
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Hi - the old trick for 4 strokes was to dose the cylinder with < teaspoon 30 grade oil and see if the compression came up - showed if the problem was rings, or valves/head gasket. Try it even on a valveless 2 stroke with no head gasket to confirm if the rings are the problem. Throttle must be wide open and the cranking speed adequate. Also, is the cylinder to base gasket the correct thickness? Too thick a gasket will change port timing and lower compression. (Too thin a gasket will have the top piston ring crash into the cylinder wear ridge). This is why you do not throw out any old gaskets until the engine rebuild has been proved OK.
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quinton wilkinson
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Can anyone help me on how to keep weed from fouling up my prop on my Blaxland twin motor.

Yes I know sail in clean water but there must be a way

Quinton
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Peter Evans
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Hello, can anyone point me in the direction of a quality blaxland chapman mechanic in the southern sydney area.I have a 5/7 twin that Aub Rose built but it will not start. any help would be greatly appreciated.cheers Peter.
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Matthew Balkwell
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I live at Arncliffe Peter, and as a Stuart Turner owner i have a fair bit of experience of starting two strokes, fuel and spark its all you need so they say.
Regards, Matt and Ron.
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john fuller
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Hello
i have a problem with my super pup and need help from the knowledgeable people here.
I have stripped my motor down and have derusted and painted, i have not touched the main bearings at all. when i went to put it back together with correct gaskets i found that the crankcases with the crank fitted now have a gap of about 4 mm, and i dont understand how this could be, i dont think the bearings would have expanded and they are still flush with the top of the cases, if i tightened them down even with a 2mm gasket the crank will not turn at all, i can not understand how this has happened and help would be greatly. appreciated.
john
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quinton wilkinson
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Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

try the makers of BLAXLANDS AT 02 65583182 OR TOD VIGREN ON THIS DISCUSSION BOARD OR AT 0243631361
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Laurie Derwent
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Quinton, Re Weed on propo: Small OMC outboards used to have a weed free propellor available. It's hard for me to desribe theshape in words but they had a more acute angle on the leading edge of the blades.Depending on the type of weeed encountered they were reasonbly effective. If it is an ongojng problem for you could seek advice from Austral Props. This is not aimed at you or other OME folks as we are all wise and love our fish habitats but in NSW we have laws that prohibit the harming of seagrass and I'm constantly unimpressed by the folk who insist on dredging through weed beds. Cheers, Laurie.
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neil r jones
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From memory I think Quinton has a 16 ft plywood launch with a 5/7 Blaxland Twin therefore would have to stay with the designated prop.
Only way is to avoid weed area or throw the motor into neutral .
It would not be nice ,as Laurie suggests ,to go any distance through weed beds .
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quinton wilkinson
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To Neil and Laurie .
Many thanks for the hints , have contacted the props people awaiting reply . Would you believe it the weed cutters arrived to day . It seems that outboards have no problems in the water but deep keel and inboards its another matter . The weed wraps around the shaft just before the prop evn going into neautral does not allow the weed to come of , its a bugger as the lake is 6 kms around and now full and would be lovely to go all around especially as it is only 1km from home . Would love to start a old motor boat register for Victoria any ideas on how to go about it there must be a few around. Quinton
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Laurie Derwent
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Quinton, It appears that even a 'weed free prop may not assist in these circumstances (unless you can reduce the space betwen the stern gland and the prop to prevent the weed becoming wrapped around the shaft).

As for an OME register in Victoria why not go for the whole of OZ. I have no idea how to set up a website but I'm sure someone can help? Laurie.
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Allen Flux
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http://www.boatregister.net/index.htm

Worth a look.
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Todd Vidgen
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everybody.
Some low life has stolen a friends putt putt
from its mooring on the main wharf at Hardys bay
on the Central Coast just north of Sydney.
It has a dark blue cover,and is painted red,whit and blue.(though this will probably be changed
by the "a holes" who knocked it off)
It has a 3 1/2 hp Blaxland single which has just
been fully rebuilt to new specs.
They dont have the magneto,so if you hear of
someone after one or trying to unload the motor
could you let me know so we can dispense a bit
of "river justice"
Cheers
Todd
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Todd Vidgen
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Post Number: 219
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Update on putter
Its was found washed up on the rocks about couple of miles away.
Seem as though it was taken for a joy ride,but not
having the maggy in it,it was abandoned and just let drift with the outgoing tide
Todd
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Bruce Findlay
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That's good news Todd. Not too much damage to the hull I hope. But at least he's got it back.

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